Comments on: New AMS draft policy statement links Hurricane Katrina and climate

By: Hurricanes to global warming link: blown away « Watts Up With That?

Hurricanes to global warming link: blown away « Watts Up With That? — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:09:45 +0000

[...] Will the American Meteorological society abandon their draft policy statement which links Hurricane Katrina and [...]

By: Jeff Alberts

Jeff Alberts — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:33:55 +0000

If he’d just look beyond Tim Flannery’s book he might actually learn something, but it appears that is his total bibliography on the subject of weather and climate change.

I don’t think he wants to. He’s said more than once that he thrives on such “abuse”, which is why he entered the way he did. Such people don’t deserve respect. You have to give it to get it.

By: Jeff Alberts

Jeff Alberts — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:19:55 +0000

Bravo, Anthony. Though I wouldn’t have let him go on this long, lol. I would have banned him from the very first post.

REPLY: Well I’ve found a stable connection now, so I’m back on awhile.

I really tried to reach this man, but he’s now spouting that the Atlanta tornado is a direct result of AGW, like our friend John Kerry did a couple of weeks ago. Davison has this bizarre claim on his scribbleblog that the “weather today is fundamentally different than even less than 50 years ago”. But the Palm Sunday tornado outbreak apparently is something he never heard of, or maybe the super tornado outbreak of April 3-4 1974 with 148 tornadoes is lost to him as well. In fact there is an entire list of tornado outbreaks going back to the 1600’s in North America.

If he’d just look beyond Tim Flannery’s book he might actually learn something, but it appears that is his total bibliography on the subject of weather and climate change.

By: John A. Davison

John A. Davison — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:40:21 +0000

For some support for the suggestions in the AMS statement, I refer you to the following -
http://john.a.davison.free.fr/?p=11#comment-387

especially comments 68 through 70.

“Mankind fiddled while earth burned.”

REPLY: Alright that does it. Your comments there have nothing to do with the AMS statement, you are just trolling for traffic and putting out your own brand of snark.

You get your wish as you’ve hinted from day one. As others say, you are indeed a crackpot and you are the first and only person to be permanently banned from this forum. Congratulations. I’ve been patient, I’ve tried to help you understand, I’ve tolerated your constant need for confrontation. No more.

And by the way Dr. Davison, the reason I closed the other thread is that you are so “web inept” I didn’t want you to accuse me of deleting your posts when they didn’t show up right away. Because, I’m traveling this weekend, so posts wouldn’t show up for hours, as has been the case today. I’m writing this from laptop on a WiFi hotspot at a Starbuck’s. But you took exception to that note also, scribbling some insinuations on your blog, then baiting people here to go look at them. So since I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t with your reasoning, the choice was simple. Nothing gets through to you, and from the trail you’ve left, it appears most others on the Internet that have encountered you agree. Your inability to grasp fundamental concepts of physical processes or to carry on a rational discussion without confrontation is your downfall. I don’t have the time to coddle you anymore, be gone.

I’m sure you’ll copy all this into your blog then claim how terribly mistreated you’ve been. That’s your MO, go for it.

By: tommoriarty

tommoriarty — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:59:11 +0000

Here are some thoughts on linking hurricane numbers or intensity to CO2>.. This page includes links to seven journal articles which contridict the idea that there is a strong link. While we are at it, here is a sample of extreme climate hyperbole featuring a gigantic "future hurricane." Tom Moriarty

By: Kristen Byrnes

Kristen Byrnes — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:20:03 +0000

The global warming believers have tried to blame every event listed in that paragraph on global warming.

By: John Goetz

John Goetz — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:34:19 +0000

I agree with Anthony that the statement on Katrina should go. This is in part because it has been inappropriately linked to global warming, and as Anthony points out, it only serves to charge the statement politically. But the main reason is that the policy statement recommendations have nothing to do with Katrina’s devastation. The bottom line is that everyone knew it was coming and where it was going, and the government messed up the response.

By: aaron

aaron — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:31:01 +0000

“Ok thanks for the laugh. Now, back on track. It’s ‘meteorology. As is study. We’re not freakin’ engineers.

We’ve had our fun, now get back to work. I want to know when this damn snow is gonna melt!”

[Ok, one more diversion: Go Warming!]

By: Dodo

Dodo — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:35:15 +0000

The Junkscience graph of US landfalling hurricanes is a bit deceptive in that the last column is for years 2001-2005, the previous ones for whole decades. It is always annoying to see such sloppiness.

By: Bruce Cobb

Bruce Cobb — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:21:34 +0000

Climate is long term, so there is no such thing as a “climate event”, though the climate alarmists like to posit that “Hurricane Katrina, the current East coast drought, the 2007 California wildfires, this winter’s storms, and other recent events” are all due to AGCC. The very fact they included the California wildfires, which had to do with arson is proof positive they are pushing the AGCC angle.