Comments on: Jan08 Northern Hemisphere snow cover: largest anomaly since 1966

By: Global Warming .... Make that Cooling - Page 3 - Political Forum

Global Warming .... Make that Cooling - Page 3 - Political Forum — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:41:38 +0000

[...] and Of Course, The Fact That The Entire, Northern Hemisphere Has Had The Most Snowfall Since 1966, T… noaa’s Site And Plugged In The Earliest Date That I Could Up Until Today. I Don’t Know Where You Got Your Chart From, But This Is From The Governments Record Keeping Database. Exposed Once Again With Spin And Political Scientific Data Marketing __________________ Supreme Executive for the I.S.S.F [...]

By: Global Warming .... Make that Cooling - Page 2 - Political Forum

Global Warming .... Make that Cooling - Page 2 - Political Forum — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:01:50 +0000

[...] And of course, the fact that the ENTIRE, Northern Hemisphere has had the most snowfall since 1966, t… So what you’re saying, is I’m just supposed to ignore all this because you guys are smarter than me, and your computer models are like God, they’re infallible and can’t be mistaken, so I should just STFU and go home. I need to stop reading, and stop using my brain to figure out that something doesn’t smell right and just let congress pass the biggest tax increase in history in the form of a Carbon Cap and Trade system, because it’s all for my benefit, it’s not about money it’s about saving the world right. Another interesting little tidbit, I went to NOAA’s site and plugged in the earliest date that I could up until today. I don’t know where you got YOUR chart from, but this is from the governments Record Keeping Database. I’ve posted here before MANY pictures of instances where temperature monitoring stations were being placed on top of commercial Air Conditioning units and other heat Islands that were exacerbating the reporting problem, and they’ve finally acknowledged a lot of these abuses and started to clean up their data. Using a 5 year Trend line makes the situation look at lot worse than what it actually is. Truth is, the trend line shows about a 1 degree rise in 100 years, which is just about normal and has been documented to have happened many, many, many times before during the Medieval Warm Period, the Little Ice Age and the year without a summer in the early 1800’s. (Truth be told these periods have had as much as a 3 degree variation in half the time, but whatever) Also, why did the trend line go DOWN between the 1930’s and the 1970’s when we had our BIGGEST increases in Carbon Output? (except for that ONE year, that sticks out like a sore thumb) Why you guys are so eager to go back to North America being covered by a Sheet of 50′ of Ice is beyond me. I mean that IS a natural cycle right? You would think you would welcome the warming. OK, enough lallygagging, what is the Point? The point is, why are we seeing all these cold temperatures while we’ve MASSIVELY increased carbon output. Why has the Carbon output not produced MORE warming over the past decade? Why have 2007 and 2008 (so far) been some of the Coldest years on record in so many areas while Carbon is going up, up, up? __________________ http://www.nosocialism.com ———————————————– America is not a Socialist country, this is why the only democrats who ever win, are democrats who SOUND like Republicans (Hello Bill Clinton - Low taxes, Free Trade, Welfare Reform, Era of Big Government Over - Sounds Republican). [...]

By: Michael

Michael — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:58:26 +0000

Why don’t you do a story on the new weekly record low just set? These are all the week nine snow coverage extents since 1967. Data courtesy of Rutgers University. http://climate.rutgers.edu/snowcover/table_area.php?ui_set=0&ui_sort=0

2008 38.63
2007 46.70
2006 43.41
2005 44.67
2004 43.45
2003 47.10
2002 43.13
2001 44.16
2000 41.73
1999 44.24
1998 42.47
1997 43.00
1996 44.62
1995 41.67
1994 42.09
1993 46.49
1992 41.54
1991 44.62
1990 39.79
1989 43.37
1988 42.75
1987 47.44
1986 45.38
1985 46.75
1984 44.21
1983 43.87
1982 44.90
1981 43.01
1980 46.83
1979 47.77
1978 48.34
1977 43.93
1976 43.89
1975 43.16
1974 43.23
1973 43.34
1972 42.62
1971 46.55
1970 43.70
1969 45.79
1968 42.55
1967 47.40

By: A B. Pouliot

A B. Pouliot — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:34:33 +0000

March 26, 2008
Hi! I’m new here but maybe you can comment on this. I live in Canada, Qc. I have relatives in Quebec city and I cannot remember a year since 1960 they had as much snow. I have some reference over there and I can say that they had a very fast start in december and that it is still snowing regularly and still very cold (-16C yesterday morning). I heard that they are about to beat a record standing since 1867 or so.

I read here that the Artic ice cover would have noticably recover from 2007 summer. Well, …how’s that fitting with an “obvious” climate global warming?

I look for snow cover stats for Quebec city on the Internet and even on Environment Canada site could not find clear results. Where can I find this ? I also looked for other sites in Canada and was surprised to see that for many of them, stats don’t go back farther than 1940 or so … I mean, do we have valid data to evaluate climate change …?

Have a good day

By: Mark Mahlum

Mark Mahlum — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:03:43 +0000

I have a friend who recently explained that global warming has five possible results. First, wetter and colder than normal. Second, wetter and warmer than normal. Third, dryer and colder than normal. Fourth, dryer and warmer than normal. And fifth, normal. Yep, I guess she’s right. WE are definitely causing global warming.

By: Wakefield Tolbert

Wakefield Tolbert — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:59:50 +0000

Global warming means more vapor in the air in some modeling. Thus the increase in snow. This MIGHT mean larger snowfields for the glaciers for a while too until temps reach such a point after which snow in the coldest latitudes can’t stick any more.

but no, there is not necessarily an inherent contradiction of snow and global warming. Warming does not mean that Greenland will become the Sahara, only that at the poles you’ll see the results first due to colder objects and land masses heating faster than the southern latitudes.

Sorry gang. enjoy the snow. But we’re not off the hook just yet just becase kids are playing with more snowmen than ever in cold places like New York.

Meanwhile down here in SC people are washing cars in short sleeves.

By: word of mouth - The Sun So Hot I Froze To Death

word of mouth - The Sun So Hot I Froze To Death — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:19:23 +0000

[...] Northeast Ohio braces for yet another winter storm, a new analysis shows that snow cover in the Northern Hemisphere is greater than at any time since 1966. In addition, [...]

By: Der Januar-2008-Schnee in der NH schlägt Rekorde! « Climate Science & Politics

Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:12:02 +0000

[...] anschauliche Darstellung der Ausdehnung der Schneebedeckung der gesamten nördlichen Hemisphäre in seinem Blog. ICECAP (International Climate and Environmental Change Assessment Project) hat ebenfalls über [...]

By: GISS Land-Ocean Index dives in Jan08, matches trends for UAH and RSS satellite data « Watts Up With That?

Tue, 12 Feb 2008 07:03:01 +0000

[...] cooler temperatures seen in January 2008, particularly in the Northern Hemisphere, which has seen record amounts of snow coverage extent as well as new record low surface temperatures in many [...]

By: MattN

MattN — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:02:38 +0000

Ojai: BEAUTIFUL area. Spent 3 months in Camarillo last year on a consulting gig. Robert, send me some Sangiovese from Old Creek Ranch winery please!

Oh, to stay on topic here, don’t you guys know global warming can also mean cooling. Duh!