Comments on: NASA GISS and “pesky sunspot correlations continue” http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/ Commentary on puzzling things in life, nature, science, technology, and recent news by Anthony Watts Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:15:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Evan Jones http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1711 Evan Jones Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:45:49 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1711 First, can we trust an article on solar activity from a man named "Spotts"? But seriously, folks. I have heard (and have accepted) that TSI increase cannot account for the current (alleged) rate of GW. But allow me to leap from blind faith to crude reasoning. The increase in TSI of a wee bit over 0.02% per decade over the last c. 30 years, acc., to that there article. NOAA alleges a 0.06C/decade increase (over the last century). And what percentage (Kelvin) increase is THAT? A wee bit over 0.02%! And what, my fine, feathered friends, do we have here? One of two things. A.) My math is off by a factor of 10s (and Lord knows, it wouldn't be the first time)! B.) A highly limited, but darn near-exact percentage track Between TSI increase/decade and NOAA-alleged increase/decade! Can one relate TSI and temp increase on a 1-1 basis? Hmm.? Or does only heat output count? (If I did the arithmetic right, I must be the 100-millionth person to notice this.) First, can we trust an article on solar activity from a man named “Spotts”?

But seriously, folks.

I have heard (and have accepted) that TSI increase cannot account for the current (alleged) rate of GW.

But allow me to leap from blind faith to crude reasoning.

The increase in TSI of a wee bit over 0.02% per decade over the last c. 30 years, acc., to that there article.

NOAA alleges a 0.06C/decade increase (over the last century).

And what percentage (Kelvin) increase is THAT? A wee bit over 0.02%!

And what, my fine, feathered friends, do we have here? One of two things.

A.) My math is off by a factor of 10s (and Lord knows, it wouldn’t be the first time)!

B.) A highly limited, but darn near-exact percentage track Between TSI increase/decade and NOAA-alleged increase/decade!

Can one relate TSI and temp increase on a 1-1 basis? Hmm.? Or does only heat output count?

(If I did the arithmetic right, I must be the 100-millionth person to notice this.)

]]> By: Steve Moore http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1710 Steve Moore Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:35:57 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1710 "Researchers say they've found puzzling correlations between changes in the sun's output and weather and climate patterns on Earth." Nice to see they're up on current events. Hershel noticed that over 200 years ago. “Researchers say they’ve found puzzling correlations between changes in the sun’s output and weather and climate patterns on Earth.”

Nice to see they’re up on current events. Hershel noticed that over 200 years ago.

]]> By: Jeff http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1709 Jeff Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:21:04 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1709 Any solar correlation is much stronger than any CO2 correlation, yet they hang their hat on CO2. Any solar correlation is much stronger than any CO2 correlation, yet they hang their hat on CO2.

]]> By: CO2Breath http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1708 CO2Breath Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:32:27 +0000 http://wattsupwiththat.wordpress.com/2007/09/27/nasa-giss-and-pesky-sunspot-correlations-continue/#comment-1708 Are there associated plots? Calculations and plots of annual mean albedo? Mean albedo vs. GISSTemp? Are there associated plots? Calculations and plots of annual mean albedo? Mean albedo vs. GISSTemp?

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